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	<title>Comments on: Backup Space &#8211; What a minefield!</title>
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		<title>By: Darren Crannis</title>
		<link>http://www.skillett.com/technology/computers/hardware/backup-space-what-a-minefield/comment-page-1/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Crannis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keiron,

If you&#039;re looking at streaming data off-site, you may want to look at ADSL 2+ or ADSL Max Premium....800k upload (or something like that) - but you pay for it!

For local P2P disk-disk backup, I&#039;ve heard that Retrospect is a good piece of software...or there is the old xCopy scripts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keiron,</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking at streaming data off-site, you may want to look at ADSL 2+ or ADSL Max Premium&#8230;.800k upload (or something like that) &#8211; but you pay for it!</p>
<p>For local P2P disk-disk backup, I&#8217;ve heard that Retrospect is a good piece of software&#8230;or there is the old xCopy scripts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keiron</title>
		<link>http://www.skillett.com/technology/computers/hardware/backup-space-what-a-minefield/comment-page-1/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>Keiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darren,

I definitely want to stay away from tape drives - always hated the damned things!!! I can back upto DVD if I want to.

You make a good point about the offsite/on-line solutions, but some of the lag I&#039;ve seen has been appalling - everyone raves about their download speeds, but their upload is typically seriously limited at 256k or 512k!

I saw something the other day, P2P backups, but I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d want the rubbish off your Hard Disc filling up my machine!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darren,</p>
<p>I definitely want to stay away from tape drives &#8211; always hated the damned things!!! I can back upto DVD if I want to.</p>
<p>You make a good point about the offsite/on-line solutions, but some of the lag I&#8217;ve seen has been appalling &#8211; everyone raves about their download speeds, but their upload is typically seriously limited at 256k or 512k!</p>
<p>I saw something the other day, P2P backups, but I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d want the rubbish off your Hard Disc filling up my machine!!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Crannis</title>
		<link>http://www.skillett.com/technology/computers/hardware/backup-space-what-a-minefield/comment-page-1/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Crannis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this post has been superceeded by &quot;The minefield just got bigger&quot;

I like Mapquest&#039;s post about tape-backup, because you can take it off-site, but tape is still tape (all our customer servers are RAID5 and run tape backup systems) but for large amounds of data (of 100&#039;s of GB) the LTO range of drives LTO-3 (&amp;4) which will now do 800GB-1.6TB compressed (never achievable, so stick to x1.2 of the native, say 500GB-1TB).  Backup in 100&#039;s of GB of data onto tape will take hours (and hours), so moving towards external removeable HDD is coming in for speed.  (n.b, an HP Ultrium-3 drive + scsi / sata HBA card + tapes will set you back about £1k + backup software, a 500GB disk will cost you about £70).

As for your commend about external on-line backup sites, I&#039;ve seen these, and beleive me, the infrastructure is amazing.  Due to EU regulations, you won&#039;t have to worry about security side of things (too much).  There are several on-line sites, the business ones will typically charge £4-8 per GB (compressed).

Darren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this post has been superceeded by &#8220;The minefield just got bigger&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Mapquest&#8217;s post about tape-backup, because you can take it off-site, but tape is still tape (all our customer servers are RAID5 and run tape backup systems) but for large amounds of data (of 100&#8217;s of GB) the LTO range of drives LTO-3 (&amp;4) which will now do 800GB-1.6TB compressed (never achievable, so stick to x1.2 of the native, say 500GB-1TB).  Backup in 100&#8217;s of GB of data onto tape will take hours (and hours), so moving towards external removeable HDD is coming in for speed.  (n.b, an HP Ultrium-3 drive + scsi / sata HBA card + tapes will set you back about £1k + backup software, a 500GB disk will cost you about £70).</p>
<p>As for your commend about external on-line backup sites, I&#8217;ve seen these, and beleive me, the infrastructure is amazing.  Due to EU regulations, you won&#8217;t have to worry about security side of things (too much).  There are several on-line sites, the business ones will typically charge £4-8 per GB (compressed).</p>
<p>Darren</p>
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		<title>By: Keiron&#8217;s Window to Madness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Backup Space - The minefield just got bigger!</title>
		<link>http://www.skillett.com/technology/computers/hardware/backup-space-what-a-minefield/comment-page-1/#comment-1478</link>
		<dc:creator>Keiron&#8217;s Window to Madness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Backup Space - The minefield just got bigger!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] threw a real spanner in the works just before I went off to buy this damned USB Hard Drive as a backup [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] threw a real spanner in the works just before I went off to buy this damned USB Hard Drive as a backup [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mapquest</title>
		<link>http://www.skillett.com/technology/computers/hardware/backup-space-what-a-minefield/comment-page-1/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mapquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just go for it - sounds like a good deal :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just go for it &#8211; sounds like a good deal <img src='http://www.skillett.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Keiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mapquest,

I&#039;d almost come to that decision, was just bordering on a last idea of a USB hard drive enclosure and then I could put any size drive I liked in it.... But found a nice USB HDD, 750GB for just over £100.

Keiron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mapquest,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d almost come to that decision, was just bordering on a last idea of a USB hard drive enclosure and then I could put any size drive I liked in it&#8230;. But found a nice USB HDD, 750GB for just over £100.</p>
<p>Keiron</p>
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		<title>By: Mapquest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mapquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use tape backup personally. Out of the options you listed I would pick USB drive for reasons you listed already :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use tape backup personally. Out of the options you listed I would pick USB drive for reasons you listed already <img src='http://www.skillett.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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